This was talked about on 720 this morning during morning talk back. If JH was to attend it would be seen as hypocritical given his stance on the issue.
Again I tell you Katie...in 100 years from now, KRUDD will be loathed as the PM he was...espesically compared to his predecessor.
I can see where his attitude comes from and why he might want to just stay out of the spotlight but I also think he's still a terrible, terrible c*nt and one of the worst things that has happened to this country in the last 50 years - can't imagine much that would change my stance on this, I'm afraid...
Worst thing to happen?? Come on...you and I both know that in some cases it was the right choice.
Would you argue against taking a child away from a drug addict/abusive (white) mother?
You can't tell me that you believe some of those kids where better off rotting away with their degenerate parents?
Apart from you always taking the softer, easier to justify stance on these sorts of issues, have you actually thought about what it would have been like to be born into such a hopeless environment?
To bad for those kids I suppose?
Has your Western Suburbs upbringing blinded you from the reality of what those kids would have gone through (and still do) growing up?
I think there is justification for taking kids out of a dangerous homelife, for sure, but I don't think that what was necessarily what the stolen generation was all about. In some cases I'm sure the kids involved had 'better' upbringings by the standards we judge them but they didn'thave their families or access to their culture and history.
At the same time I think it smacks of a sort of very mild genocide and an attempt to 'breed out the natives'.
Sure some of it might have been done with the best of intentions but I think it also destroyed a lot of families and lives and that's something that should be apologised for.
And yeah my WS upbringing probably does make it tough to put myself into someone else's shoes but it does at least seem to have given me a bit of compassion for other people, which can't be a bad thing.
Wow - how level headed from both of you. That was an interesting conversation to read from both points of view. And well done Kate, you took the bait without getting the hook caught in your cheek :)
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This was talked about on 720 this morning during morning talk back. If JH was to attend it would be seen as hypocritical given his stance on the issue.
Again I tell you Katie...in 100 years from now, KRUDD will be loathed as the PM he was...espesically compared to his predecessor.
If ever there was a puppet...
I can see where his attitude comes from and why he might want to just stay out of the spotlight but I also think he's still a terrible, terrible c*nt and one of the worst things that has happened to this country in the last 50 years - can't imagine much that would change my stance on this, I'm afraid...
Worst thing to happen?? Come on...you and I both know that in some cases it was the right choice.
Would you argue against taking a child away from a drug addict/abusive (white) mother?
You can't tell me that you believe some of those kids where better off rotting away with their degenerate parents?
Apart from you always taking the softer, easier to justify stance on these sorts of issues, have you actually thought about what it would have been like to be born into such a hopeless environment?
To bad for those kids I suppose?
Has your Western Suburbs upbringing blinded you from the reality of what those kids would have gone through (and still do) growing up?
http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,23192584-2,00.html
I think there is justification for taking kids out of a dangerous homelife, for sure, but I don't think that what was necessarily what the stolen generation was all about. In some cases I'm sure the kids involved had 'better' upbringings by the standards we judge them but they didn'thave their families or access to their culture and history.
At the same time I think it smacks of a sort of very mild genocide and an attempt to 'breed out the natives'.
Sure some of it might have been done with the best of intentions but I think it also destroyed a lot of families and lives and that's something that should be apologised for.
And yeah my WS upbringing probably does make it tough to put myself into someone else's shoes but it does at least seem to have given me a bit of compassion for other people, which can't be a bad thing.
Thats a very leveled argument...I agree with your points below.
but still...leave poor Johnny alone...you and your vindicative group of voters have done enough to him all ready...let him enjoy retirement in peace.
Wow - how level headed from both of you. That was an interesting conversation to read from both points of view. And well done Kate, you took the bait without getting the hook caught in your cheek :)
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